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![First developer job at age 38 with lawyer turned software engineer Zubin Pratap [Podcast #203]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DzVm161M4Kk/sddefault.jpg)
Today Quincy Larson interviews Zubin Pratap, a software engineer and manager from Melbourne, Australia. After nearly two decades working as a corporate lawyer, he taught himself programming using freeCodeCamp.org. Within two years, he landed a job as a software engineer at Google.
We talk about:
- How tools are making programming easier, but other parts of being a developer harder
- How 2009 - 2022 was NOT a normal job market and how devs are adapting
- "The purpose of communication is to be understood" and other lessons Zubin's learned over the years
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Links from our discussion:
- Zubin's LinkedIn and other social media:
- Zubin's "Easier said than done" podcast on YouTube:
Community news section:
1. Let's kick off 2026 with a ton of announcements. We just launched Version 10 of freeCodeCamp's JavaScript certification,
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